Who is R.C. Sproul, Jr.?
A collection of his writings & sayings
Parenting & Homeschooling
On Spanking:
“We live in a world that tells us that the rod is bad. To be sure some tragically provoke their children to wrath by crossing the line that separates discipline from abuse. But that doesn’t change the plain teaching of the Word. We have experts writing learned papers for prestigious journals telling us that when we spank our children that we train them to be violent; that they will learn from the experience that problems are solved through violence. We are told that spanking damages our children. Sadly, we often tend to accommodate the wisdom of the world. We believe, because we have been taught to believe, that it takes an expert to really understand anything, rather than He who created the children in the first place. We think maybe instead of giving us the rod as a tool of enforcement, God gave us the time-out chair. It’s still unpleasant after all. (I wonder why no one makes the argument that when we use the time-out chair we teach our children that timeout is the way to solve our problems.) And in so doing we make manifest our own disobedience. We likewise make manifest our own hatred for our children (Prov. 13:24). I do not need to make a case for using the rod. Here too, the Bible is abundantly clear.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“Bound For Glory: A Practical Handbook for Raising A Victorious Family” page 104
On Looking Like a Sadist While Spanking His Kids:
“The function of punishment is to train my children in obedience. It is rehabilitative rather than punitive. I explain to my children that I am not spanking them in order to make things right, to even out the scales of justice. Rather, I am spanking them because I want to make them right. That’s my motivation in spanking my children, and that’s also why it ought to be for us such a joyous occasion. That is why I do not need to be stern and angry during this process. It’s a lesson to be learned.
“I tend to look rather silly when I’m about the business of disciplining my children. I get a big goofy grin on my face, looking to all the world like some kind of twisted sadist.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“Bound For Glory: A Practical Handbook for Raising A Victorious Family” page 106
On the Need For Spanking to Hurt:
“With all appropriate caution against doing actual damage to our children, we must concede on more point here. We provoke our children to wrath if we use the rod to simply fan the fannies of our children. That is to say, if it doesn’t hurt, not only are we doing it wrong, but we are wronging our children.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“Bound For Glory: A Practical Handbook for Raising A Victorious Family” page 108
On “Provoking Children to Wrath”:
“God warns fathers that we must not provoke our children to wrath (Eph. 6:4). One simple way of translating this concept is to believe that God warns fathers against making their children mad. Such an understanding would be mad indeed. God warns instead that we, as we seek to help our children learn to obey, that we do not instead lead them toward destruction.
“The text isn’t telling us that if we overdo the discipline that our children will be provoked to wrath. Nor is it promising us that if we discipline our children that they will not be provoked to wrath. While it is not a complicated thing, we can surely discipline our children in a foolish and counter-productive way. We will surely provoke our children to wrath if we don’t discipline them. But we might so provoke them even if we do. Our calling is to love our children enough to discipline them, and to discipline them with wisdom.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“Bound For Glory: A Practical Handbook for Raising A Victorious Family” page 98-99
On Educational Standards:
“I have dear friends whom God has blessed with eight children. They homeschooled their children, who were rather typical of homeschoolers. They were delightful. But, as is still too often the case, family and friends would often fuss at them because of the choices they had made. The mother made a confession to me. She told me, ‘You know, my nine-year-old daughter doesn’t know how to read.’ Now here is a good test to see how much baggage you are carrying around. Does that make you uncomfortable? Are you thinking, ‘Mercy, what would the school superintendent say if he knew?’ My response was a cautious, ‘Really?’ But my friend went on to explain, ‘She doesn’t know how to read, but every morning she gets up and gets ready for the day. Then takes care of her three youngest siblings. She takes them to the potty, she cleans and dresses them, makes their breakfasts, brushes their teeth, clears their dishes, and makes their beds.’ Now I saw her rightly, as an overachiever. If she didn’t know how to read, but did know all the Looney Tunes characters, that would be a problem. But here is a young girl being trained to be a keeper at home. Do I want her to read? Of course I do, as does her mother. I want her to read to equip her to learn the Three Gs. But this little girl was learning what God requires, to be a help in the family business, with a focus on tending the garden.
“I’m not suggesting that the goal is to have ignorant daughters. I am, however, arguing that we are to train them to be keepers at home.”
Note: the “Three Gs” are explained on page 77 of the same book thusly: “The first G is ‘Who is God?’ The second G is much like the first, ‘What has God done?’ The third and final G is ‘What does God require?’”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“When You Rise Up” page 110-111
On Homeschool Curriculum:
“When I am emphasizing the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, I see the terror rising in their eyes. If homeschooling is a radical departure from what we’re used to educationally, how much more frightening is it to throw away the mountain of curriculum we’ve purchased, and sit down with a Bible?”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“When You Rise Up” page 23
On Prerequisites for Homeschooling:
“There is a similar test I like to offer to determine whether or not you are competent to homeschool. You don’t have to go to college to get a degree in education. (In fact, that degree might prove to be counterproductive because education programs prepare you to teach how the state wants you to teach.) You don’t have to have teachers in your family background. Nor is it necessary that you were once the teacher’s pet, or are an expert in clapping erasers. The test is rather simple to take. It should take only a few minutes, and then you will know. The first thing you do is wait until it is late at night. Then, very quietly, go from room to room in your house. Peek in carefully, and see if you find any sleeping children. Then be sure that these are your own children. If there are wee ones in your home during the wee hours, and if they belong to you, you are competent to homeschool. The true Expert on education is the very One who gave you these children.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“When You Rise Up” page 46
Addressing Educational Shortcomings in Homeschooling:
“There is yet another line of argument, this one having a slightly more pious tint to it. The various forms of this argument all come under the heading I like to call ‘the well-being of the child’ argument: ‘I can’t teach my child x, and in today’s fast paced economy, everybody has to know x.’ Once again we need to go back to the standard. Can you teach your children the Bible? If the answer is yes, you are ready to homeschool. If the answer is no, then you must devote every moment you have to becoming trained to teach your children the Bible, because somehow God, in his mysterious providence, has given you a child and not equipped you for every good work. So learn the Bible. If you can’t teach them physics, then you can’t teach them physics. If you can’t teach them geography, then you can’t teach them geography. If you are able, and you want to teach those things, then do so. But if you don’t know the Bible, learn the Bible.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“When You Rise Up” page 132
On Teaching Math:
“…[H]ow you teach math rightly is by always remembering why you teach math, and more important, by always reminding the children. We must first confess, then profess that two and two make four–not apart from Jesus, not beside Jesus, but because it is Jesus’ two and Jesus’ two and Jesus’ four. It all belongs to him. We confess and we profess that he invented math and he rules over it. He is the reason for it. Math is always objective, never neutral. That is, it speaks truth because Jesus is the truth.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“When You Rise Up” page 24
On the Educational Benefits of Feeding Chickens:
“What are you supposed to teach your children? To exercise dominion for God’s glory. Now we are back to our methodology. That is, if all our days are about the exercise of dominion, then we are always in school. Let’s try a little quiz. When my daughter [Name] is giving table scraps to our chickens, is she (a) learning obedience and hard work, (b) doing school, (c) living the good life, (d) exercising dominion, (e) humoring her daddy’s silly dream of succeeding with chickens, or (f) all of the above? I trust the answer is obvious.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“When You Rise Up” page 94
On Teaching Newborns (And Letting His Laboring Wife Pack Everything But the Bible):
“None of our children were born so fast that we didn’t make it to the hospital. We always have time to pack, and my wife is a professional packer. She packs the still camera and the video camera, clothes for herself and the baby, a deck of cards to play with me, and a stack of birth announcements that she starts filling out as soon as the baby is born. I have only to pack one thing, and so far, out of six times, I’ve never forgotten it. I always bring our homeschool curriculum. When Denise holds the baby I kiss the baby, hug and kiss Denise, cry a little bit, and wait. When the baby is bundled up, I reach for the curriculum.
“Our curriculum has sections in it for boys and girls. The boy part has thus far been used only once, the girl part five times. To all of my girls I read Proverbs 31, the beautiful description of a godly wife and mother. To my son I read Proverbs 3, calling him to lean not on his own understanding, but to rely on the Word of God.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“When You Rise Up” page 70
Speaking of His Then Ten Year-Old Daughter:
“The women she knows best are homeschooling moms from her church community. She certainly has never suffered the slings and arrows of an angry feminist telling her to get down in the sludge and start acting like a boy. But she knows what and how feminists think.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“When You Rise Up” page 101
Screenshot from the 2007 Vision Forum Catalog
On Gender Differences in Education:
“There is, understandably, a great deal of overlap between what we’re supposed to be teaching our boys and what we’re supposed to be teaching our girls. Both of them will serve the same God, know the same history. Both of them bear the same image of God. They are equal in dignity and value. But they will be called to different roles, and so once more, contra mundum, we affirm that there is a difference in what they should be taught. There ought not to be a one-size-fits-all approach that denies the differences in boys and girls.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“When You Rise Up” page 97-98
On Scaring Children with Threats of CPS & Brotherly Authority:
“I don’t remember what point I was trying to make, but to illustrate the point I made a passing reference to the chain of command in my home. I mentioned that my second born child, my son [Name], who at the time was five and is now seven, knows, as does his older sister, who was seven then and is nine now, that a day was coming when he would be in a position of authority over his sister. As soon as the words were out of my mouth, all the older sisters in the crowd were both in combat mode and instantly united. Their enemies were proximately their little brothers, but ultimately, me. When I finished by address, I found myself surrounded by a mass of angry, feminine, pulchritude. The younger brothers did not bother to back me up. They were too busy demonstrating their maturity by doing end zone dances in celebration over what I had said.
“For all their obvious anger, the ladies did manage to remain ladies. They were polite, and demure, as they graciously asked out of which specific pit in hell my fool idea had come from. Unable to spot a lawyer in the crowd, I chose to defend myself. ‘Suppose,’ I asked the young ladies, ‘your mom and dad were away some afternoon. While they were gone your baby sister, in mid-diaper change, decided a nice brisk walk in the front yard, in the snow, would be invigorating. Before she can do too much damage, you rescue the child from the cold and complete the diaper change. Two hours later you peak out the window and see coming toward your front door a Hillary Clinton clone. This one isn’t the nanny from New York, but your friendly, neighborhood Lady from Child Protective Services. Who,’ I asked them, ‘should answer the door? Who is responsible to make sure that this woman doesn’t cart off all of you?’ They all agreed that in the face of this enemy, the oldest son should step in. ‘Alright,’ I continued, ‘now suppose he thinks it would be a grand idea for the Lady from Child Protective Services not to see the still-rosy cheeks of baby sister, nor the gaggle of middle children. He thinks this ‘intervention’ would go more smoothly if all of you were out of sight. Does he not have the authority to instruct his siblings, even his older sister, to head down to the basement until the danger has passed?’”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
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On Scaring Children with Stories of Martyrs:
“It is good and right that we don’t want our children to be scared. When we were working our way through the Book of Acts during family worship, almost every night the application of whatever text we covered was some version of, ‘They might come one day; you better be faithful. Don’t you betray Jesus, even if it means torture and death.’ And my saintly wife, understandably, was a little concerned. ‘Do you think it’s wise?’ she asked. ‘These poor children aren’t going to be able to sleep at night.’ How should I answer that? Should I tell the children the next time we are about a martyr, ‘It’s not really that bad. This could never happen to you or to your children.’?
“No, instead I teach them to find comfort in the same place the people in Acts found comfort, in the sovereignty of God, or in his strong right arm. The counterbalance is in the power of God and his promises. If enemies come and take us away, that’s okay. What’s the worst they can do? To live is Christ, and to die is gain. They can’t take anything from us, for our treasure is in heaven. If they do come, let us rejoice to be counted among his martyrs.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“When You Rise Up” page 103-104
On the Question of Socialization:
“…’What about socialization?’ Before we begin to look at the question, let’s consider once again what the Bible tells us. It tells us that it equips us for every good work. It tells us likewise that we are to raise our children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. But it not only doesn’t tell us how to socialize our children, but doesn’t tell us they should be socialized. There is no commandment from God, ‘Thou shalt socialize thy children.’”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“When You Rise Up” page 135
Marriage & Gender Roles
On His Very Own Genesis Head-Cannon:
“We raise our daughters to be warriors for the kingdom by raising them to be keepers at home. Remember that back in the garden there is, in a sense, a twofold element to the dominion mandate. Adam and Eve (who, you will remember, was made to be a help to Adam in his charge to exercise dominion) are supposed not only to exercise dominion, but dress and keep the garden. God had given them a model of the end product in the Garden of Eden. They were both to protect that model, and to reshape the outlying jungle to reflect the glory of the garden. Adam, being the head of the household, was responsible for the whole enterprise. (Some say, in fact, that he sinned in not guarding Eve in the garden.) But, being masculine, his focus would tend to be more outward. He would go into the jungle and gardenize it. Eve, being feminine, called to be a keeper at home, would focus on keeping the garden. He is outward-looking, while she is inward-looking. He is aggressive; she is protective.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“When You Rise Up” page 108-109
On Equality & Submission:
“It was God Himself who said, ‘It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him’ (Gen. 2:18). Some translations say, in an older style of English, a helper ‘meet’ to him. ‘Meet’ means fitting or appropriate. What you see in this language is the very point I’m belaboring. There is at the same time an equality and a distinction. Eve is made to be a helper to Adam. This affirms that she is in a position of submission. (This is made all the more clear when Adam names his wife, as naming was a sign of authority.) But at the same time, we are told that this helper is comparable to him. This speaks to the other side of the equation-her value, her dignity, her worth; in this way she is equal to Adam.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“Bound For Glory: A Practical Handbook for Raising A Victorious Family” page 64
On Weddings:
“Consider what is happening, for instance, in most wedding ceremonies. Early on the bride-to-be is escorted down the aisle by her father. The officiating minister asks, ‘Who gives this bride?’ The father typically answers, ‘I do, together with her mother’ or ‘Her mother and I do’ or some such variation. What is happening here? The young lady is moving from being under the care and authority of her parents, to being under the care and authority of her husband.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“Bound For Glory: A Practical Handbook for Raising A Victorious Family” page 81
On Feminism:
“The feminist movement, like every strategy of the devil, has failed on all fronts. When you make a deal with the devil, not only does he always get what you offer, but he never delivers on his side of the bargain. Feminism does not set women free from the tyranny of men. Rather, it imposes on women the tyranny of men. The truth is that ‘Boys protect girls’ is not just a moral imperative. It is an ontological reality. That is, men will always lead women. The only question is whether that leadership will be servant leadership. The only question is whether men will lead by ordering women off to battle, or to serve men’s petty wants, whether we will send our sisters to face off with the Lady from Child Protective Services, or have them shine our shoes. Or, will we lead as Jesus led?”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
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On Homemaking:
“This passage, as with Ephesians 5, tends to draw still more ‘Yes, buts…’ in our day. We complain that this homeward calling is not challenging, it’s not glamorous, it’s not important, it’s not profitable. And surely if it is none of those things, it cannot be God’s calling. But this again is bucking under the authority of God Himself. He instructed Paul to instruct the older women to instruct the younger women to be homemakers. Which means that this calling comes from God Himself. Which means that not only must we obey, but that it is in fact important. If it comes from God it cannot be any more important. It cannot be any more glamorous. It cannot be any more profitable.
“Only the devil could convince us to look at this call as demeaning. Both husband and wife are called to build the kingdom. Men have the principal call of going out into the jungle and turning it into a garden. Women have the principal call to tend that which is the garden. Which means this–women have the blessing of focusing their energies on raising up godly seed….
“When we buy into the modern myth that meaning for women is found outside the home, we are distracted from the business of building the kingdom. We are living in the center of the curse upon Eve–that her desire would be for her husband.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“Bound For Glory: A Practical Handbook for Raising A Victorious Family” pages 70- 71
On Women Pastors & Miserable Marriages:
“Even within the church we have embraced an understanding of ethics steeped in pragmatism. We are willing to submit to God, only insofar as we are able to understand His wisdom. Why, for instance, would God not want women to serve as elders and pastors if He has so gifted them? Why would God want me to stay married when I’m so miserable in this life? Why would God not want me to eat this fruit that is pleasing to the eyes and desirable to make one wise? God is our Father, and as such He is utterly free to declare, ‘Because I said so.’ His law is grounded not in what it does for us, far less in what we understand that it does for us. His law is grounded in who He is.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
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On the Requirment of Joyful Submission:
“Our next qualifier is perhaps the most difficult, and is built once again around this concluding phrase, ‘as unto the Lord.’ This not only tells us that there are circumstances where wives must not obey their husband, but also tells us that when they obey, with what spirit they ought to obey. A begrudging obedience is no obedience at all. We as the church do not respond to the Lord’s commands, ‘Well, if you say we have to do it, we suppose we have to do it.’ The submission of a wife to her husband ought to reflect the same joy that we are called to in our submission to our King.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“Bound For Glory: A Practical Handbook for Raising A Victorious Family” page 69
On Intimacy:
“Wives crave intimacy, and nothing is more intimate than coming together before our King in prayer. This is better than buying flowers, greater than remembering to pick up your towel, more powerful than diamonds and pearls. Nothing will communicate more clearly the love for your wife than when she hears you beseech the God of heaven and earth for her.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“Bound For Glory: A Practical Handbook for Raising A Victorious Family” page 59
On Submission:
“We have difficulty with this in large part because we live in an individualistic age. The world around us is steeped in egalitarianism. Egalitarianism is a fancy way of saying, ‘equal-itariansim.’ It is a philosophy that affirms–as the Declaration of Independence does–that all men are created equal. But egalitarianism fails to include appropriate qualifiers as to the nature of that equality. It affirms not only that all people are equal before the law, not only that all people are equal in dignity and value, not only that all people are made in the image of God, but that all people are equal in authority, in relationships, and with respect to roles.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“Bound For Glory: A Practical Handbook for Raising A Victorious Family” page 63
On Submission Being Specific to Husbands & Wives vs. All Men & Women:
“Paul tells us that wives are to submit to their own husbands. This is not an issue having to do with the relationship between men and women, but between husbands and wives. Paul does not teach that all men have authority over all women, or that all women must submit to all men. It is quite clear that such is not the case. Wives cannot submit to other men, because they must submit to their own husbands. No one can serve two masters.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“Bound For Glory: A Practical Handbook for Raising A Victorious Family” page 67
Culture, Worldview, & Politics
In Telling the Story of A Family Cared For by R.C.’s Church After Being Abandoned by an “Infidel Father”:
“It was a hard thing for the widow. We weren’t, of course, able to keep her in great style. She had to trust that the church would meet her needs. The state offered to do the same. She had to choose one or the other, because we as a church had no interest in helping the state care for her. It was tough on her pride. But I reminded her that her calling at that time was to be Jesus to us, that we might have the opportunity to be Jesus to her. We cannot give a cup of water in the name of Christ, unless there are those in our midst who have need of a cup of water. He called her to be thirsty, that He might call us to give her drink.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
“Bound For Glory: A Practical Handbook for Raising A Victorious Family” page 98-99
On Science:
“Science, at its worst, is filled with hubris, insisting that it and it alone is the arbiter of truth. At its best science understands that it is seeking to think God’s thoughts after Him, and will ever be doomed to come short. In an earlier piece I made the argument that in this COVID era we have scientists galore who indignantly demand that we follow the science while they’ve left it far behind and have taken up philosophy.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
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On Queerness:
“The very heart of sexual confusion is the drive to act against that which is natural. It is to shake one’s fist at the very order of God and the very God of order, at the design of the Creator’s creation. Perversion, for the sexually confused, isn’t a bug of the lifestyle, but a feature.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
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On Homosexuality & Culture:
“There is a reason homosexuality was once called the love that dare not speak its name. It once made sense that homosexuals used to live in ‘closets,’ hiding the truth about their sexual peculiarities. There was, not just among Christians but in the broader culture, a consensus that this was twisted. Those given to such behavior kept it on the down-low. The only reason Christians find themselves having to be bold and upfront in denouncing homosexuality is because homosexuals and their fellow-travelers are insisting that we celebrate homosexuality….
“The homosexual lobby has no interest in protecting their ‘rights’ to do what they do in private. No one has been trying to take those ‘rights’ away. The whole of the movement isn’t about what they do, but about what we think about what they do. We are being made, through the tender mercies of the state, to care. Christians want nothing more than for everyone to repent and believe the gospel, to turn from our sins and rest in the work of Christ for us.
“The homosexual lobby wants Christians to repent of our Christianity, our belief in the gospel, our conviction that we are all sinners, that we have a duty to submit to God’s law. Christians proclaim our message, the sole weapon of our warfare being the preaching of the gospel. The homosexual lobby uses the bludgeon of the state, their sole weapon of enforcing their religion of ‘tolerance.’”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
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On Theocracy:
“Any Christian should agree that the civil law of any nation ought to be the civil law that God commands.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
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On Abortion:
“The great tragedy of the last thirty years is not ultimately that the heathen, those who the Bible tells us ‘love death,’ are killing their children. Rather, the great tragedy is that those who have been bought by the blood of the Lamb just don’t care. Of course the heathen kill their children. They, after all, are the heathen. But we who were dead in our trespasses and sins, but who have been made alive, who have been set free by the death of the One Innocent, ought not to give up.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
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In Answering the Question, “What should our relationship be with our oldest son and his live in girlfriend?”:
“How then ought your family to treat him? The more important question is how ought the church to treat him. When your son professed Christ he surely came under the authority of a local expression of the body of Christ, the church. The elders there vowed to watch out for your son’s soul, and so now have a duty to bring to bear the grace of church discipline in his life. He should be called before the elders to repent, to turn from his sin. If he refuses, he should be barred from the Lord’s Table and from the table of those who belong to the Lord. He should be excommunicated, disfellowshipped. He should, that is, no longer be welcome at your own table as well. Your relationship with him changes from one wherein you believed one another to be bound together in the bonds of Christ to now being mere relatives. Yes you can be polite to him. You can be cordial to him. You should let him know that your hearts are broken, that you love him and always will, but that having left the faith; he has left that which defines your family.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
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On Discernment Blogging & Internet Gossip:
“First, consider gossip. If gossip is spoken in the woods and no one hears, does it still make a mess? Guarding our tongues is important. But we need to guard our ears as well. Without an audience, gossip dies on the vine. It isn’t gossip when I know something you don’t. It isn’t gossip when you find out what I knew first. It’s only gossip when I get to be the one telling you. Ego and pride drive the tongue and open the ear.
“The same is true of controversy. In the prototypical schoolyard fight, there is typically the victim, the bully, and the cowards. While we rightly cheer for the victim and hiss at the bully, the cowards, too, deserve our opprobrium. They haven’t even the willingness to risk what the bully has, and worse still, they provide the audience he craves.
“The Internet has not helped. Cyber-bullies hide behind proxy servers and false names. Victims slowly learn that fighting back only encourages them. And there is no vice principal patrolling the hallways and breaking things up. Then there are the cowards. They create the page views, and some even input their own comments, usually anonymously, yelling, “Fight, fight,” while they sit three rows back. They create the audience that is the real raison d’être of the controversy to begin with.”
– R.C. Sproul, Jr
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R.C. Sproul, Jr: A Timeline
2004
The “The Tenets of Biblical Patriarchy” is Posted to the Vision Forum Ministries Website:
“Biblical patriarchy is just one theme in the Bible’s grand sweep of revelation, but it is a scriptural doctrine, and faithfulness to Christ requires that it be believed, taught, and lived. The following are a list of affirmations which describe the perspective of Doug Phillips of Vision Forum Ministries, Phil Lancaster of Patriarch magazine and R.C. Sproul, Jr., of the Highlands Study Center. This document, drafted by Phil Lancaster, with the advice and counsel of others, is offered in an attempt to clarify what we mean by ‘biblical patriarchy.’ We view this as an accurate working document, and invite feedback from anyone as we attempt to improve this statement over time.”
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2006
Westminster Presbytery Reformed Presbyterian Church General Assembly Statement in January 2006:
“The Moderator, by the authority of the Elders of Westminster Presbytery, herein deposes from the office of Elder, Dr. R. C. Sproul Jr., Mr. Laurence Windham, Mr. Wayne Hayes and Mr. Jay Barfield and dismisses them to the general membership of Westminster Presbytery. They are to be held for trail[sic] pending additional charges, both public and personal, that are currently being investigated. The consistent pattern of actions taken by these men are duplicitous in nature, and demonstrate that they willingly and knowingly act in an arbitrary fashion in violation of their vows of ordination and in violation of our denomination’s Book of Church Order. Most importantly, their actions manifest that they lack the qualification for the ministry (1Timothy 3:1-7). It would be unwise to allow these men to continue to hold an office for which they are not qualified. They have no interest to govern themselves appropriately within this Presbyterian system of government that they vowed to submit and conform to its rules and regulations with conduct becoming ministers of Jesus Christ.”
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Pearcey Report article from February 2006:
“Among the reasons for the disciplinary action are charges of spiritual abuse of members and attendees of St. Peter Presbyterian Church, as well as financial irregularities that include the ‘identity theft’ of another church’s Federal Tax I.D. number.”
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Doug Wilson’s Comments in February 2006 (Addressing Various Bloggers Who Were Covering the Matter):
“I have seen some web sites in this that had a powerful amount of ‘information,’ and lots of links to other attack sites and/or purported proofs. When you are shoveling excrement, the basic operating strategy has to be one of moving total tonnage. Many of the things claimed were issues about which I had no personal knowledge (with the only thing to go on being the way the charges were being made; cf. my series on justice). But happily mixed in with all this were slanders that I did have personal knowledge of. And guess what? These guys are about as reliable as any other guy with a spittle-flecked keyboard.”
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CREC (Confederation of Reformed Evangelical Churches/Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches) Investigation Report from May 2006:
“Although Mr. Sproul was deposed from the ministry (primarily for violations of the RPCGA BCO which would not apply in the CREC), we have determined that since he had been previously examined for ordination (by three different presbyteries of three denominations ARPC, PCA, and RPCGA), he shall not be required to fulfill the process for ordination and shall be considered ordained within the CREC accordingly. Therefore, the session pro tempore will begin a series of discussions with Rev. Sproul and the congregation to the end that the provisions of the Constitution regarding election and installation of a minister may occur.”
Notes: The CREC denomination changed their name in 2011. To clarify the jargon here, this is Douglas Wilson’s denomination’s report on their investigation into the matters for which R.C. was defrocked, which resulted in them accepting R.C. Sproul, Jr as an ordained minister once again within their denomination.
RPCGA = Reformed Presbyterian Church General Assembly
BCO = Book of Church Order
ARPC = Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church
PCA = Presbyterian Church in America
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Peter Kershaw*, in a June 2006 Letter Addressed to R.C. Sproul Jr:
“Thus far I’ve been successful in preventing your name from being drug into this sordid affair. Nevertheless, there are additional questions which must be resolved, and you are the only one who can answer the questions and who can bring this matter to successful closure, so far as it concerns you. From all appearances your own conduct is not unlike Doug Wilson’s. Rather than calling a head of household meeting and distributing pictures of Steven Sitler and telling the men of your church that they needed to investigate if Sitler had access to any other children in your church, you, like Wilson, have elected to bury the whole matter.”
Note: Peter Kershaw is a racist and otherwise generally unpleasant person who once attended R.C. Sproul Jr’s church.
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In a July Letter to Peter Kershaw, from CREC Pastor Randy Booth:
“You have the facts wrong regarding Steven Sitler and R.C.. But if you have an ecclesiastical charge to bring against Pastor Sproul, please contact the moderator of the Saint Peter session, Pastor Randy Booth. If you would like to pursue a criminal allegation against Pastor Sproul, please contact the police.”
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Peter Kershaw, in a July 2006 Letter Addressed to Members of R.C. Sproul Jr’s Church:
“…during the month of June 2003 Steven Sitler was a student at the Highlands Study Center. Sitler is a predatory and very accomplished child molester, meaning that prior to being caught he got away for years with molesting many children in several states, including Washington, Idaho and Virginia and, yes, of at least one confirmed St. Peter family. Some estimates indicate that he may have molested over 100 children, although an exact number has yet to be confirmed. “
Note: Highlands Study Center was a ministry run by R.C. Sproul Jr.
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Additional Alleged Details
2010
CPC 2010 General Assembly Highlights:
“We authorized two evangelists – Dr. RC Sproul, who will be serving at Ligonier Ministries…”
Note: CPC (Covenant Presbyterian Church) is a denomination started by James McDonald. Also, while this announcement omits the “Jr” from R.C.’s name, later lists of churches on their site make it clear that it was R.C. Sproul, Jr, and not his father who joined the denomination.
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2011
In 2011, R.C. Sproul, Jr’s wife Denise Passed Away.
From her Obituary:
“Denise Elizabeth (Rocklein) Sproul of Sanford, Fla., age 46, passed away Sunday morning, December 18, 2011. Born in York, Pa., she was raised in Bradenton, Fla., graduated from Bayshore High School and Florida State University, and lived in Bristol, Va., for 13 years. Denise taught English at Apopka High School and Orangewood Christian before becoming a fulltime wife and mother. Deeply loved by her family and friends, she is beloved mostly by her savior, Jesus Christ.”
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From Daughter Darby, in a December 2011 Facebook Post:
“Denise, enjoying the blessed vision of our God and Father, is at home with the Lord. Cancer no longer afflicts her, and every tear has been dried away. The Queen of Orlando casts her crown at her Savior’s feet, and together, they dance. “
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Screenshot from Ligonier Ministries
2012
In 2011, R.C. Sproul, Jr’s daughter Shannon Passed Away.
From her Obituary:
“Shannon MacFarlane Sproul, of Sanford, FL beloved daughter and sister, went home to the Lord October 3, 2012. Born August 19, 1997 in Abingdon, Virginia, she is survived by her father and her sisters Darby, Delaney, Erin Claire and Maili, as well as brothers Campbell, Reilly and Donovan. Shannon was diagnosed with lissencephaly, a rare malformation of the brain when she was 1 year old. Profoundly disabled she never progressed mentally beyond the capacity of a toddler. She was a constant joy and delight to all who knew her. Her interests included music, her siblings, car rides, sunbeams, and she maintained throughout her life a constant passion for balloons. “
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2014
Spiritual Sounding Board Reports on Anonymous Commenters Who Alleged that R.C. Sproul Jr Engaged in Wife-Spanking:
“As Doug Phillips and his Vision Forum ministry is sinking, stories of abuse among Christian Patriarchy are surfacing: domestic violence, wife spanking, etc, among other well-known circles such as RC Sproul Jr., etc.”
Source (and excerpts from the relevant Comments can also be found here)
Reformation Bible College Announces that R.C. is Now Rector & Chair of Philosophy and Theology:
“As Reformation Bible College (RBC) continues to grow, so does our need for gifted and godly professors and administrators to carry out the vision of the school. To that end, RBC President Dr. R.C. Sproul Sr. and the Board of Directors of Ligonier Academy of Biblical and Theological Studies are pleased to announce the promotion and appointment of Dr. R.C. Sproul Jr. to the position of rector of theology and chair of the Department of Philosophy and Theology.”
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2015
R.C. Sproul, In an Article Posted in July, 2015:
“I hope, however, that my children still don’t know about Ashley Madison, a website that I only recently learned about….
“It is in the news recently, not because it is a new website or a new concept; it is in the news because they have recently been hacked. The hackers who broke into their site were able to retrieve mountains of information including millions of names of people who signed up for this website. And they are not merely showing their computer skills, demonstrating what they can do. They’re actually threatening that if Ashley Madison does not shut down they will publicly release all the names of those who have sought the services of Ashley Madison.
“I suspect that there are a lot of people privately sweating, 37 million of them, probably. I wonder how many are going to publicly object and declare the immorality of this hack and this threat. But in doing so, we miss the immorality of the site itself. This is not merely about the private behavior of private citizens, because we are dealing with married people. Marriage, friends, is never only private.”
-R.C. Sproul, Jr
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R.C. Sproul, In a Statement Posted in August, 2015:
“In August 2014, in a moment of weakness, pain, and from an unhealthy curiosity, I visited Ashley Madison. My goal was not to gather research for critical commentary, but to fan the flames of my imagination. There I found two gracious judgments. First, I felt the grace of fear. Second, I felt the grace of shame. I was there long enough to leave an old email address. And within minutes I left, never to return. I did not sign up for their service or interact with any clients. I have always remained faithful to my wife even after her passing.”
-R.C. Sproul, Jr
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Note: despite his carefully dismissive “I visited” wording here, leaving an email address would have meant that he actually registered an account on the website.
Christianity Today Article, August 2015:
“Ligonier Ministries has suspended R. C. Sproul Jr. until July 2016 due to his admission that he visited the adultery matchmaking website Ashley Madison.”
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2016
According to an Anonymous Blogger:
“Immediately after marrying RC Jr in 2016 Lisa promoted herself to ‘First Lady of the Sproul household.’ She gave herself the title ‘Queen’ and even spoke of her ‘throne.’ She accused the Sproul children of ‘worshiping their mother’ Denise and demanded they ‘move on’ by accepting Lisa as their new mother. She demanded the subordination of every Sproul child, including the married adults who had children of their own. RC fully backed the ascent of Queen Lisa to her throne. Her power grab being rebuffed by the Sproul kids, Lisa set about erasing Denise Sproul altogether, starting with the destruction of any Sproul family photographs that included Denise in them. Again, RC obliged and the family photos were destroyed. Lisa then demanded RC have Denise’s Facebook removed, which he likewise complied with. This resulted in an ugly family dispute. The Sproul children successfully petitioned Facebook to put Denise’s Facebook back online, designating it as a memorial site so that no one could delete it again. Denise’s Facebook remains as one of the only sources of photos the Sproul children have remaining of their late mother.”
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Christian Post article from December 2016:
“With a blood alcohol content of 0.175, more than twice the legal limit for the state of Indiana, R.C. Sproul Jr., whose father Robert Charles Sproul founded Ligonier Ministries, was driving dangerously with not one but two of his underage children in his vehicle when he was arrested for a DUI last month.”
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Ligonier Statement from December 2016:
“Last Friday, the board of directors of Ligonier Ministries and Reformation Bible College received and affirmed the resignation of Dr. R.C. Sproul Jr. He is stepping away from his duties at the ministry and the college for personal reasons.”
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2020
In an Amazon Review, Lisa Sproul Tries to Claim Denise’s Works Were Ghostwritten by R.C. Sproul, Jr:
“Denise Sproul was NOT the true author of this book. Though she had an education degree and briefly taught, she was not a gifted communicator nor possessed writing skills.
“Her previous husband, Dr. R.C. Sproul Jr., known as a gifted communicator, professional writer and heralding homeschooling advocate wrote through his late wife. He gave her a voice in the world in which they lived ‘so she had a better social standing.’”
Lisa Sproul
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Screenshot of the Amazon Review – Screenshot originally posted by Spinderella Sproul Site
Screenshot of the post – Screenshot originally posted by FreeJinger Forum User
On Facebook, Lisa Sproul Doubles Down on Insisting Denise’s Works were R.C.’s:
“My DH, accomplished writer and ghost writer. Among many of his great exploits as he wrote monthly articles in Tabletalk magazine through the voice of his late wife. Articles that reached into the lives of everyday women, the politics of homemaking & motherhood.
“Her book, his voice … blessed so many- including me”
Lisa Sproul
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Lisa Sproul Spins Story of “Identity Theft”:
“Theft.
“A few years my bank account was missing hundreds of dollars. Unfortunately, it was an inside job. One of my husbands daughters stole my bank card, loaded it to an app, using it daily. Her photos synced with our home computer and we found out. It’s been a roller coaster ride ever since.
“My identity had been stolen in more ways than one. Then it was money. Now, it’s fake Amazon reviews.
“I am so over these people.”
Lisa Sproul
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Screenshot of the Post – Screenshot originally posted by Spinderella Sproul Site
2022
Wikipedia Revision Note from a User Who Tried to Remove Denise Sproul’s Name from R.C.’s Page:
“I am RC Sproul Jr. and I do not want my previous wife mentioned by name. She is not a significant part of my life.”
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Where Are They Now?
Beyond Vision Forum
As he is the son of a much more well-known theologian, R.C. Sproul Jr’s legacy certainly did not begin or end with Vision Forum. His own actions and scandals, however, have seen him removed from many of the publications and organizations that he used to write or speak for. His own late father’s organization, Ligonier, has this to say on their archival page for him: “R.C. Sproul Jr. previously served as a pastor, professor, and teacher. His content is no longer featured due to violations of our content policy.”
Despite this, R.C. Sproul, Jr. and his new wife Lisa continue to produce content on their respective websites, as well as put out podcast episodes. It should be noted, though, that at least some of the articles that he is posting are actually reposts of his former works from years past: for example, a 2008 Tabletalk article here was reposted on his personal site twice in 2022 and 2025 with no note of its original source.
He has also launched (or attempted to launch) a variety new ventures, such as Shepherds College, Dunamis Fellowship: The Teaching Outreach of Dr. RC Sproul Jr., and a church, Sovereign Grace Fellowship.
On Deconstruction:
“I grant that I haven’t devoted sufficient study to your deconstruction tales to write a dissertation. I can say that one prominent feature is that you don’t much care for people like me. You looked at the evangelical church and found there people who not only believe sexual sin is what the Bible says it is, but who are willing to say so, out loud, without embarrassment. You’ve found there people who treated those under their care as sexual toys, and others who, for the shame of it all, covered up and enabled. You found people who not only believe that husbands are to be the heads of their homes, that elders should be men but also who have treated some women less than respectfully. You found porn addicts, mansion dwellers, prideful academics, bullies and brand builders. You found all manner of sin, which surprises me not in the least. It’s how we got in the church to begin with, confessing our need for grace.”
R.C. Sproul, Jr.
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On “Shiny Happy People”:
“Like many in this country, I’ve made my way through Prime Video’s wildly successful series, Shiny Happy People. Unlike many in this country, I know a thing or two about fundamental logic. The disconnect between the actual evidence presented and the conclusions reached is a yawning chasm. It is a textbook case on how to use propaganda to reach conclusions that are, based on your evidence, a bridge too far.
“Before I seek to make my case, a few bits of background information are in order. I know Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar. My wife and I consider them to be friends. We aren’t the kind of friends to take a vacation together, but are the kind that happily exchange (side) hugs when our paths cross. I’ve never met Bill Gothard though I have spoken to him on the phone briefly. As for the rest of the movers and shakers in the homeschooling world, almost all of them I know. Many of them have been friends, a few remain so. I and my family have been the subject of online vicious snark from the fellowship of the aggrieved for years and years. That is, many would see me as among the usual suspects.
“And I have genuine guilt. I left an email address during my visit to Ashley Madison. I drove drunk with my two youngest in the car. It would be natural to me either, out of a sense of solidarity, to be defensive about accusations against my ideological friends, or to blast them with the utmost vigor to show they’re worse than me. There is, as always, plenty of guilt to go around. It’s just not where we’re being led to think it is….
“Shiny Happy People had no interest in giving Gothard a trial. They simply let the accusations stand as if they were convictions, and from there smeared everything he’d ever touched. Leftist discomfort over homeschooling, large families, wives submitting to their husbands were presented as further proof of the evils of Gothard and the Duggar family, while Gothard and the Duggar family were presented as proof that homeschooling, large families and wives submitting to their husbands were evil.”









